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Journal; Multiverses

Journal Entry: Fri Aug 17, 2007, 9:18 AM
  • Mood: Alienated
  • Listening to: http://www.last.fm/user/j4m3sb0nd/
Just thought I would change my journal with something new, here is something I wrote a few months ago (19th August 2007), feel free to ponder and share your thought:

Perhaps the following will be considered a compilation of conceptualisations and ideas, however, they are no doubt naïve and I imagine that others have thought of such ideas before, being within human comprehension. Even so I feel that they are worthy of thought, and so I will elaborate on them as a maelstrom of philosophical thoughts for further exploration.

Firstly consider black holes, should they even exist, considering that even their existence is debated. Described as infinitely dense matter; as with anything labelled infinite, one could even consider it incomprehensible – it is not unusual for philosophy to muse about such things upon waiting for further exploration by scientific means. One philosophical idea I suggest is that black holes are just like the theoretical metaphorical 'bubbles in a simmering pot' that contemporary astrophysics think our universe as being part of – one of many universes, a multiverse. If you where to be the observer of this 'simmering pot', perhaps it would seem that the bubbles where infinitely dense, surrounded by an expanse, perhaps not, either way this concept leaves a higher echelon above the universe as being ambiguous.

I imply that we are able to 'see' multiverses from this universe in the form of 'infinitely dense' black holes, and that perhaps our universe could be seen as a black hole in another universe – if it held the same physics, and if not, perhaps it would appear as an equivalent oddity within another universe. Perhaps this concept is more tangible by giving a tangible description, consider that many atoms are quite hollow, and it is only our own minds which fill in the gap of such things being solid. If you had a powerful enough means of magnification, you could probe between the hollow atoms of say, an ordinary desk. From our own human eyes, it could be said that the desk seems to be infinitely dense from an aesthetic point of view – it is not transparent, it has no tangible holes, it is solid. And yet, with the right tools we learn otherwise, we learn there is great space between such matter - and so it may be with black holes, should they exist.

To see an entire universe in such a small form from a universe the size of the one we exist in would logically seem infinitely dense – to create space between such dense matter would be decompress a universe – to have the size of an uncompressed universe, seemingly infinite, just as the matter is. It is in this thought of procuring plausible elaboration upon the incomprehensible that it can be realised how this very principle extends beyond multiverses and into the mundane – there are many things which may seem superficially unexplainable, and yet it is only this; superficial. Perhaps it is beyond human comprehension as of current; or perhaps it is only perceived as such – this is an important thought to consider in every day life. It is with this that I conclude the practice of philosophy is not merely a trivial one, even as it seems to be ignored in this contemporary society, for whether it be in the study of metaphysical issues or humanity, all can be related to the greater comprehension of all things; a sense of enlightenment; understanding.

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Also, I would hope to make a new piece soon, but photoshop is increasingly running slow. ;p

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:iconxero-sama:
`xero-sama Dec 4, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
Ah, someone with a good head on his shoulders!!! Its unusual to find something interesting like this on dA!
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:iconj4m3sb0nd:
Well, thankye. And yes, a sad fact.
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:iconxero-sama:
`xero-sama Dec 16, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
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:icondraxiandezigns:
~DraxianDezigns Aug 19, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Very interesting journal entry. You should do more of these in the future...and you've inspired me to do so as well. I think about the universe and its vast array of mysteries on a daily basis. It's something that simply boggles the mind and over the years, I've come to realize that it is not just a select few individuals who think this way, it's a shared human thought that envelops all of mankind. Some may not think about it as frequently as others, but there is a part of the human mind that cant help but wonder...what else is out there? What is our purpose in a universe that is so vast that it beyond comprehension?

When it comes to celestial bodies such as black holes, we don't know exactly how it works. In fact, we know very little...we only have theories and minimal evidence to back our thoughts and ideas. However, if the universe is anything like the ecosystems here on Earth, would it not make sense for there to be some form of universal "cleaning crew?" The populous of stars, planets, nebula, and other celestial bodies need be controlled in some way...so the existence of something like a "black hole", in theory, makes sense. This is all from an amateurs' point of view mind you...so if any of what I said doesnt make sense from a statistical standpoint, that is why.

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:iconj4m3sb0nd:
Indeed, glad to inspire. I will add however that there are some people (and many) who do in fact prefer not to think about such things; they are caught up thinking of the mundane, or they don't put any value in thinking of the unknown. It's sad, but true.

And being so many unknown things about the universe, maybe it is somewhat like an ecosystem, like cells in space supporting a larger environment, in which case your theory could make some sense - of course, black holes do more than just gobble up matter, if they do exist, it is thought that galaxies are practically held together by them.
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:iconplanetbloopy:
Infinite things seem to be built into the universe. It's strange to think that it's possible for an infinitely dense point to be created if large amounts of matter get too close to each other. Compare that to trying to accelerate something to the speed of light, which requires an infinite amount of energy.

We certainly need to evolve as a species to improve our comprehension. Certain governments are supposedly keeping much more advanced knowledge from us because they don't think we can handle it yet. ;)
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:iconj4m3sb0nd:
We do indeed need to involve in order to comprehend these things.. So far, humanity shows little progress. I would say that if governments have such information, they cannot truly handle it, if they decided to do so - for they reflect the state of their countries, and humankind is far too foolish as a whole to handle much of importance.
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:icondinesiac:
Research leads me to believe that there is no such thing as a black hole (or dark matter or any of this ) because gravity as a 'force' does not exist. In fact, no 'forces' exist. The term force was created by the Newtonians in a formalistic attempt to remove "cause" from science ("Hypothesis non-fingo" or "I make no hypothesis"). This was the sum of the Leibniz-Clarke correspondence.

I can tell you read the Cusa...but beware the fallacy of Euler. While an infinite series may extend outwardly and inwardly, there is such a thing as a singularity. Part of the reason for "hypothesis non-fingo" is that Newtonians aren't creative. Therefore they only recognize that there is such a thing as the infinite. However, the Leibnizian understands that the human being is inherently creative, as such generating consistent hypothesis about what sensory data he or she is receiving. That's why when we gaze upon the universe, it's not an anomalous blur of elementary elastic particles and forces banging against each other, but as Mendeleev showed in his construction of the Periodic table, there are singularities, such as the Atom...or isotopes...and larger singularities, such as Molecules and from there cells and the world of what's visible. Existing perhaps, as Plato called it, as a shadow on the cave wall, albeit very persistent and there to allow us to investigate the unsensuous even further.
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:iconj4m3sb0nd:
That's fair, indeed, it is silly to say things are not relative - it is like detaching that which is in the universe from being part of the universe, when it clearly seems so. However, these terms of forces and the like have become a convenient means of describing certain affects. And so it is that black holes/dark matter may exist, but not in a detached form; not as a separate entity. About the 'bigger picture', by saying that a black hole could be part of another realm is not to say realms are not connected, but rather directly connected in ways. The term 'universe' being another convenient descriptor of expected parts.
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